Subject	Explain it to me then :-)--->
Posted by	Kyle(Houston) on January 15, 2003 at 10:46 AM
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In Reply To	Not a contradiction, your not differentiating posted by therinL on January 15, 2003 at 10:35 AM
Message	I understand that the low octane map is used in cruising situations where you would be under 3200 Rpm. Then high octane maps are used at WOT where you are well above 3200 Rpm. So if the JWT program retards the timing using the low octane map when the car is under 3200 rpm which is the only time the detonation sensor can sense detonation....how is that different then what Ash's program does??? And the funny thing is the ECU and the sensors is what controls that. JWT and Ash only control the fuel and timing in the different maps. The only way I could see a porblem is if JWT advanced the timing extremely in the low octane map and I just don't see that happening. Kyle "Grumpy Bear" Puckett ICQ #727815
Follow Ups	Jim Wolf Tech ECU Owners. Here's something to chew on. >> - AshsZ (FABio) 00:08:53 01/15/03 You do know you bring things on yourself, right? (n/m) - SactoTodd 00:21:52 01/15/03 Not to sound egotistical, but I'd like someone to disprove - AshsZ (FABio) 00:26:51 01/15/03 You're sounding more and more like a dirty politician lately - SeedyROM 00:34:02 01/15/03 You Cali boys have a lot of love for JWT. Who's this Ash - AshsZ (FABio) 00:39:30 01/15/03 Look, this is NOT an attack bro... - SeedyROM 01:00:05 01/15/03 Like you said,>>> - Spongerider (Very, Very Soon) 11:40:07 01/15/03 Personal attacks make it too personal though... - AshsZ (FABio) 13:59:57 01/15/03 It becomes personal to you when people question you - Spongerider (Very, Very Soon) 14:06:07 01/15/03 Here's how I see it. - AshsZ (FABio) 14:28:32 01/15/03 Now get back to work - mm_95TT 15:13:14 01/15/03 ;-) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:20:38 01/15/03 I'm just curious, why would someone be afraid to say - AshsZ (FABio) 00:56:30 01/15/03 It's your tone and attitude. - SactoTodd 00:35:05 01/15/03 I just type it as I think it. If I'm worried about - AshsZ (FABio) 00:44:15 01/15/03 waaaah!!! (n/m) - OU812 00:56:38 01/15/03 I liek the wy Ash talks - therinL 01:15:48 01/15/03 ASH is GREAT! stop hating on him :( - ForceFedTT 03:18:27 01/15/03 Agree, I love me some ASH. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 11:15:04 01/15/03 Speaking of ECUs, did you get my email? (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 00:40:40 01/15/03 Yeah, I got both of them (at both email adresses that is) :) - AshsZ (FABio) 00:46:28 01/15/03 does that mean that you will be answering mine also? (n/m) - bfastrblast 00:53:25 01/15/03 I did not get an email from you. (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 09:27:40 01/15/03 sorry..that was meant for ashz (n/m) - bfastrblast 11:42:58 01/15/03 I appreciate the info. As always, I consider the source. (n/m) - sebring1970 01:08:45 01/15/03 It's 2:00 here in FL, I have to work at 8. I posted - AshsZ (FABio) 01:16:09 01/15/03 Don't feel like a jackass. I believe you believe in your - sebring1970 18:24:22 01/15/03 Good info. Now hurry up with that Zemulator! - Marshall 01:33:58 01/15/03 Agreed! - SeedyROM 01:34:57 01/15/03 man, you just kill everyone here! FREAK! =) - Z. 02:21:17 01/15/03 Good point... Safety first.. (n/m) - luispest 03:22:26 01/15/03 Eh...detonation bypass? (n/m) - RSR 09:08:47 01/15/03 It only listens for detonation under ~3200RPM! >>> - AshsZ (FABio) 09:35:43 01/15/03 I'll admit that I don't know enough to have an - RSR 12:42:14 01/15/03 So when can I send you my ECU? You have made me a believer (n/m) - Cap927 06:45:55 01/15/03 Good job Ash! I need to get one of those consults. (n/m) - Russ ZTT (Jax, Fl) 07:08:01 01/15/03 sounds like you need better tires ..... LOL (n/m) - Luke@tirerack 07:15:35 01/15/03 LOL, figured I'd give the Kum whores a shot. 265-35-18's - AshsZ (FABio) 10:25:37 01/15/03 LOL...harp on safety & YOU are running a detonation bypass - Kyle(Houston) 07:15:45 01/15/03 and addition to that he is having problems with his own car - Carlos Ramirez 08:39:59 01/15/03 Problems? The car is running fine. Anyone who has a - AshsZ (FABio) 09:07:28 01/15/03 LOL. Give me a chance to explain that >> :) - AshsZ (FABio) 08:51:38 01/15/03 I have some time now so lets talk :-)-----> - Kyle(Houston) 08:56:03 01/15/03 Lets do this. - AshsZ (FABio) 09:24:34 01/15/03 Hmmm...lets get some questions answered---> - Kyle(Houston) 09:50:39 01/15/03 I *think* what Ash is saying is that.. - HogZ (NW Arkansas) 10:03:09 01/15/03 You ARE correct, sir. :) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:07:31 01/15/03 Here goes.. - AshsZ (FABio) 10:03:39 01/15/03 Full Range in DSMs - therinL 10:18:45 01/15/03 Typo. Furthest RIGHT column is highest load. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:20:08 01/15/03 You are contradicting yourself----> - Kyle(Houston) 10:30:39 01/15/03 Not a contradiction, your not differentiating - therinL 10:35:57 01/15/03 Explain it to me then :-)---> - Kyle(Houston) 10:46:49 01/15/03 Havent you got some cars to work on? - niXit 10:52:33 01/15/03 Heh. Well, its not misinformation Nick. That's the only - AshsZ (FABio) 10:54:15 01/15/03 No offense, but remember the oil pump? (n/m) - Good2Zya 23:15:07 01/15/03 I am making calls for the move...cars are later today... (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 11:13:33 01/15/03 Here it is>> - AshsZ (FABio) 10:58:35 01/15/03 Wow...that is a bold statement...that could be used in---> - Kyle(Houston) 11:20:57 01/15/03 I understand where you are coming from. - AshsZ (FABio) 12:41:09 01/15/03 Re: I understand where you are coming from. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 13:00:45 01/15/03 Yes, there is a knock zone in both low and high maps>> - AshsZ (FABio) 13:22:04 01/15/03 Kyle, slow down bro. You are not reading what I - AshsZ (FABio) 10:42:56 01/15/03 You are still contradicting yourself---> - Kyle(Houston) 10:58:20 01/15/03 I'm done. - AshsZ (FABio) 10:59:59 01/15/03 You two ought to get on the phone and work this over.. - Brad (JSpecZ32) 12:45:10 01/15/03 Golf clap ... - Carlos Ramirez 09:26:39 01/15/03 Re: Golf clap ... - AshsZ (FABio) 09:31:38 01/15/03 ok here is a cookie - Carlos Ramirez 12:40:37 01/15/03 roflmao! Jack's 14's LOL BAhahahahaha - LRD VDR 09:45:49 01/15/03 theres the grumpy bear we all miss :o) (n/m) - HalfnHalf702[HJC] 09:51:30 01/15/03 Re: Jim Wolf Tech ECU Owners. Here's something to chew on. >> - orinoco 08:30:18 01/15/03 I got a question about our ecu programing>> - KEZ (a.d.i.d.a.Z) 08:33:21 01/15/03 Nice tuning tool... - RSR 09:07:41 01/15/03 150mph for 45 min! Dear gussy! (n/m) - Tennyson (ATL) 09:12:12 01/15/03 To clarify....45 miles, not minutes....Pony Express 2001... (n/m) - RSR 10:26:10 01/15/03 WOW dude, that's pretty ballzy driving it that hard - AshsZ (FABio) 09:30:54 01/15/03 Is Ashz ignoring me? - orinoco 09:32:38 01/15/03 No, just writing/reading a lot. > - AshsZ (FABio) 09:51:29 01/15/03 umm? - orinoco 09:54:35 01/15/03 Yes. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 10:04:25 01/15/03 Well, I'm planning to return this year - RSR 10:31:24 01/15/03 Sounds like fun :) (n/m) - ZHOUND 11:54:48 01/15/03 Oh yes. (n/m) - RSR 12:44:16 01/15/03 Great write up Ash!!! Worth reading for sure. (n/m) - jamcru 09:12:21 01/15/03 We'll gladly test & post Dyno's from any available ECU's!! - Iaintyobabydaddy 10:34:57 01/15/03 and who the hell are you? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 14:54:41 01/15/03 Todd Reeves. Z1 Motorsports. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:22:21 01/15/03 ok, sounds good....thought it was just some random person (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 17:17:31 01/15/03 Few things... - sparkie 11:12:06 01/15/03 They've been doing it a lot longer than I have and - AshsZ (FABio) 13:14:49 01/15/03 I agree with Sparkie's point... - RSR 17:09:09 01/15/03 Several people have dynoed my programs, with great success - AshsZ (FABio) 17:13:10 01/15/03 Smiling, Ash. I agree with ASH, why use older technology - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 11:12:42 01/15/03 Look lets be honest about your mods ok? - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:56:27 01/15/03 I don't see no bell, Bernie. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 12:59:38 01/15/03 So many people here are involved in distribution - AshsZ (FABio) 14:56:08 01/15/03 Fear of a non profitable future for them, basically. (n/m) - Milo (San Antonio, TX.) 16:22:09 01/15/03 They can always sell Zemulators LOL. ;-) (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 16:57:24 01/15/03 Ash I would be careful about what you post, - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 12:12:12 01/15/03 oh yeah i still need to send you mt mailing addy... - Halo Z 12:21:28 01/15/03 Trouble maker. :) (n/m) - Spongerider (Very, Very Soon) 12:32:09 01/15/03 I think he is being serious - we had a discussion - AshsZ (FABio) 14:04:03 01/15/03 mainly haveing a 3rd party (non bias)evaluation of the progs - Halo Z 14:38:44 01/15/03 You sure I should send them to you then? ;-) - AshsZ (FABio) 14:58:02 01/15/03 har har. - Halo Z 17:13:08 01/15/03 I dont have your address.. I have 3 programs here - AshsZ (FABio) 17:14:49 01/15/03 Ash: JWT + AVC-R + code 34 = retarded timing or not? - Danny(Austin) 13:19:32 01/15/03 If the low octane map has ignition timing that is less - AshsZ (FABio) 13:27:50 01/15/03 so JWT has same timing maps? meaning no retarded timing? (n/m) - Danny(Austin) 17:36:02 01/15/03 All the ones I have seen have the same low and high maps. - AshsZ (FABio) 17:38:39 01/15/03 Interesting - so all of us with Code 34's are fine if we: - Danny(Austin) 17:48:21 01/15/03 Exactly. Normally when something like the detonation - AshsZ (FABio) 17:55:45 01/15/03 Informed customers are smart customers. (n/m) - AshsZ (FABio) 15:07:34 01/15/03
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